Monday, March 15, 2010

Comments to gas contract post.plus a legal disclaimer

Here are the comments plus a legal disclaimer I posted concerning

Gas price scams exposed

by valpetridis @ 2010-03-13 – 14:41:11

* Morgan steinbrandt (Visitor)
* 2010-03-13 @ 16:57:53

Val,

I am an executive at Direct Energy and I would like it very much if you would remove this posting from your blog. Please consider this a warning, refusal to remove said entry will result in legal action.

Sincerely,

Morgan Steinbrandt

# valpetridis
# 2010-03-13 @ 23:25:21

Freedom of expression allows me to say what I believe to be true. The facts listed are true, as you will note concerning both the cost of the contracted sale of gas as well as the situation listed concerning the elderly people duped to believe you sold then a contract at market price. In fact, I also was contacted and was told the same thing from one of the sales people at your company and I quote" is this the actual market price?" " yes sir this is the actual market price.
I take it the truth concerning said contracts did not sit with you well, unfortunately I will not retract said statement and have proof concerning its reality.
Note look up your better business bureau record as well as look at all the complaints concerning this issue that have been forwarded to the energy council of Canada.
you will not bully people like a thug from speaking their mind concerning your contracts.
I can speak my mind concerning my beliefs on matters of business, thank you
its my constitutional right

* MHB (Visitor)
* 2010-03-14 @ 15:09:30
On the contrary Val. Freedom of expression allows you to say what IS true, not what you BELIEVE to be true but is in fact false.

What you are doing is libel; a statement or representation published without just cause and tending to expose another to public contempt.

We are very open and forthright about our fixed plan rates. It says clearly on our website, in the Natural Gas Plans section, "If you choose the 5-Year Natural Gas Fixed Plan, you agree to pay 33.8¢/m3 for the natural gas you use for the duration of your agreement term."

http://residential.directenergy.com/EN/Energy/Ontario/Pages/GAS/Natural-Gas-Plans.aspx

Yes, Enbridge charges a lower /mm3 rate, (18¢/m3, not 12¢/m3 as you wrote in your massively incorrect post) but Enbridge also charges other hidden fees including a monthly customer charge, gas supply charge, transportation charge, delivery charge, and gas cost adjustment charge.

https://portal-plumprod.cgc.enbridge.com/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=248&PageID=0&cached=true&mode=2&userID=2______##10##___0___##11##_________##0##___ We do not charge any such hidden fees. With us, what you see is what you get.

According to YOUR logic, YOU would probably say that a retailer who charges $1.15 (tax included) for a candy bar is a crook because another retailer down the street is charging only $1.00 plus 15% tax.

Even if our charges work out to slightly more than Enbridge's in the end, our customers value the upfront nature and piece of mind they get from knowing what they are being charged and being able to plan their finances accordingly.

Would you say that buying a Lexus is a scam because there are cars available from Toyota that cost less?

People are willing to pay for service and high quality. If they do not wish to do so, that is their choice.

You said that the facts in your post are true, yet the prices you listed, both for Direct Energy and Enbridge, are incorrect.

You also said you old people who have gotten so sick due to losing money that their lives were ruined and they ended up in the hospital. What disease did they contract? Pooritis?

If the facts that you present are true. Why do you never provide your readers with links to the references that you use to get the information? Because the facts you say are not true, that's why.

You talk about constitutional rights, but if you don't change your tune, I'm willing to bet that our company's team of crack constitutional lawyers will soon be providing you with an ACTUAL education as to what kind of behaviour is and is not constitutional.

Sincerely.

# valpetridis
# 2010-03-14 @ 21:36:19
Actually I have not said anything except a determined thought concerning events that I have experienced.

Since I was told by a sales person who represented his company that the contract price was actually the real market price and the definition fraud is the willful deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage, it is safe to say that this individual did commit Fraud while representing his company.

Since I know old people who fell for this fraud and then got sick due to money problems, I can say that it truly did make some ill.

I have not commuted liable as I have nothing against any executive or even the company beyond said contracts.
In fact I still rent hot water tanks from direct energy and will continue too.

I have spoken to Enbridge last week and they told me their price is been 12 cents till it is set Next month by the energy board of Canada.
If anyone desires to continue paying your contract price versus the lower enbridge or set distributing price based on market price they can.
I recommend they do not.

I realize a small post has caused quit a stir with you guys.
Is it because you fear people might chose not to spend their extra hard earned money on said contracts?
Do you fear people might realize they are losing money on a plan that is set with minimal risk to the contracting company for loss of funds.
Are you afraid this might cause people not to purchase said contracts.

I know said companies do get investigated a lot for such situations and it often leads to sales people getting fired, though many sales people lie to get the sale and get a commission.

I know you are trying to damage control by claiming enbridge adds costs to gas distribution in hopes that some people reading your post might not realize how much extra money they are spending and cancel their contract, however said costs are added to the cost paid for has based on said contracts and thus saying so is trying to hide the fact that said contracts gas is expensive.

I have spoken the truth and with virtue have tried saving poor people money, you have posted hoping to make yourselves look competitive.
this is proof that what was said is even more true.

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However I add this disclaimer:
in no way does what I have said reflect on any company as a whole or any individual within any company per say.

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However 33 cents versus 12 or even 18 cents is excessive and not worth paying.

you should start reading my blog from the oldest post Feb 2008 and find out what real virtue is and why I am always under surveillance from csis and other organizations part of an executive task force( ya they record my conversations on the phone as do I sometimes.
Labor day weekend 2008 I list all the details that caused this monitoring to begin.
you can confirm the monitoring by call 55 division Toronto.
Peace and God bless

in addition there are several illnesses that can occur if people are stressed from things like not being able to pay bills esp if they fear losing their homes.
I know if you have money it might be hard to imagine it:

Stress illness see http://www.stressillness.com/
http://www.sunsetvideo.org/stress-related-illnesses.html

See this site esp because the elderly woman suffered a stroke and herart problems due to freaking and stressing over not being able to pay her bills.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20020812/mental-stress-physical-illness

Aug. 12, 2002 -- Taking stress to heart could put your life at risk. New research shows women who report high levels of mental stress are twice as likely to die from stroke or heart disease than those with low stress levels. And stressed-out men may not fare much better.

Mental stress has already been shown to increase the risk of heart disease in white men. But until now, researchers say the effects of stress on women and on people in other ethnic groups have not been extensively studied.

Hiroyaso Iso, MD, of the University of Tsukuba in Ibaraki-ken, Japan, gathered information from more than 73,000 Japanese men and women aged 40-79. Each of the study participants completed a lifestyle survey that included questions about perceived stress levels. The researchers monitored their health for about eight years.

Nearly 9,000 women and 7,000 men reported high mental stress. Researchers found that women in the high-stress group were more than twice as likely as those with low stress to suffer a stroke or develop heart disease. This held true even after accounting for other potential causes.

High-stress women were also more likely than their relaxed counterparts to report a history of high blood pressure or diabetes. The stressed-out women tended to be younger, more educated, and less physically active.

In addition, researchers say that these high-stress women were also more likely to be angry, be in a hurry, feel hopeless, and feel unfulfilled.

The study found the overall link between mental stress and cardiovascular disease in general to be stronger among women than men. But men who reported medium or high levels of mental stress were nearly twice as likely to suffer a heart attack.

Researchers say they aren't exactly sure why they found a stronger association between mental stress and heart disease among women, but there might be a great deal of fluctuation in life stress as well as variance in how people perceive stress. Men may have also been less inclined than women to admit having high mental stress.

Stress is thought to increase the risk of heart disease and stroke in a variety of ways, such as raising blood pressure and affecting how the blood flows and clots.

The findings are published in the Aug. 13 issue of Circulation: Journal of the American Heart Association.

Peace

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