Wednesday, October 21, 2015

Oload Goading virtuous morals

"What shame, what woe is this to Greece! what joy
To Troy's proud monarch, and the friends of Troy!
That adverse gods commit to stern debate
The best, the bravest, of the Grecian state.
Young as ye are, this youthful heat restrain,
Nor think your Nestor's years and wisdom vain.
A godlike race of heroes once I knew,
Such as no more these aged eyes shall view!
Lives there a chief to match Pirithous' fame,
Dryas the bold, or Ceneus' deathless name;
Theseus, endued with more than mortal might,
Or Polyphemus, like the gods in fight?
With these of old, to toils of battle bred,
In early youth my hardy days I led;
Fired with the thirst which virtuous envy breeds,
And smit with love of honourable deeds,
Strongest of men, they pierced the mountain boar,
Ranged the wild deserts red with monsters' gore,
And from their hills the shaggy Centaurs tore:
Yet these with soft persuasive arts I sway'd;
When Nestor spoke, they listen'd and obey'd.
If in my youth, even these esteem'd me wise;
Do you, young warriors, hear my age advise.
Atrides, seize not on the beauteous slave;
That prize the Greeks by common suffrage gave:
Nor thou, Achilles, treat our prince with pride;
Let kings be just, and sovereign power preside.
Thee, the first honours of the war adorn,
Like gods in strength, and of a goddess born;
Him, awful majesty exalts above
The powers of earth, and sceptred sons of Jove.
Let both unite with well-consenting mind,
So shall authority with strength be join'd.


Here Nestors ideas and wisdom is used to incite the ancient Greeks in a manner attuned to heroes and Gods. The assembly and their ancestral Greek heritage  are called a Godlike race and heroes. For example, they are incited to be a match for  “Pirithous' fame,
Dryas the bold, or Ceneus' deathless name;
Theseus, endued with more than mortal might,
Or Polyphemus, like the gods in fight? “\
More interesting is the way the ideas are incited syciophantly (syciophanty the way ideas are raised to be be deemed lofty and divine).
The speaker is trying to play off all the audiences cultural traits including their personal ones, of life and station.  The speaker  points out that the Greeks are great because they had created a universal suffrage, a democratic spirit prior to Socrates’ Athens as the Iliad was written centuries before Democracy was born in Socrates’ Athem.  The speaker makes sure he highlights the authority and right of leaders, monarchs, Gods , common people and so on in reference to the merit of the authority of their position in such an egalitarian state to make sure no one thinks he was trying to claim less merit to anyone meriting respect do to their authority and position while also emphasising teh importance of categorical adherence to virtue, morals, legality  and Justice , It is pointed out that all people must be treated justly and with equal dignity no matter the position of authority or merit one holds, Immanuel Kant would agree that the idea of categorical imperatives of justice and behaviour towards each other no matter what position of authority one has in society is important to allow for a healthy state that believes it is just and not corrupt and unhealthy.  The health of a state depends on people acting virtuously like heroes and with the propriety of moral authority that the Gods are faithed to wield.  Thus the exercise of power is based on the just laws of divine heroic acts; recalling that a hero gets to heaven or equivalent, I.e.  the elesian fields, by being more moral than viceful.  In Christianity people who are more virtuous than viceful and have, based on their past actions, done more good than vice and thus cause  the scales to lean towards the good and not the bad  do not get damned,  if you become a Hero and God and by nature act accordingly by virtue morals, justice, ext.  you are allowed into heaven: for as this section of the Iliad says, the strength of such conviction, as the nature of all ones wisdom. This is like the philosophy Plato says in book ten of the Republic is needed to get out of Hades and become a messenger of divine wisdom; which obviously begs the question since divine wisdom is its own message.

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