Saturday, November 26, 2011

Propitious Ophic hymn 3 TO HEAVEN [OURANOS]

[3] III. TO HEAVEN [OURANOS]

The Fumigation from Frankincense.
Great Heav'n [Ouranos], whose mighty frame no respite knows, father of all, from whom the world arose:
Hear, bounteous parent, source and end of all, forever whirling round this earthly ball;
Abode of Gods, whose guardian pow'r surrounds th' eternal World with ever during bounds;
Whose ample bosom and encircling folds the dire necessity of nature holds.
Ætherial, earthly, whose all-various frame azure and full of forms, no power can tame.
All-seeing Heav'n, progenitor of Time [Kronos], forever blessed, deity sublime,
Propitious on a novel mystic shine, and crown his wishes with a life divine.

Here a call to the sky gOD OURANOS THAT IS akk. Here the sky that reviolves around creation

this sky god is both ethiric and full of forms, manifest as copncrete. thus God(s) full of the gaurdians and angels, a plurality that isdetermined in tone in the psalm as a singularity has both a actual and non actual ethiric source of all being that gave form and birth to time and cronos. Thus ouranos who is also the form of nature and one with this angel as well, is the same God or face of God represented by the God who is in the hjeavenas or heavens. the night is part of the sky yet gave birth to those who sing praises to God All the Gods and guardian angels live in the heavens of the oneness of the shared soul of God as the sky or heavens whio is also on earth and encompasses all. May this face of God(s) and unity of good on earth and in akll places thjat are always heaven lest you are not a good person and you find it a correction place and purging system of your ways be Propitious to us the good who might call our selves evil as just and good, help us reach the divine crown it offers and make us divine abnd reach theosis.
UQS
QUS

another prpheus site.http://www.templehermes.com/ancient_prayers.html

Friday, November 25, 2011

Orpheus and night and USEA plus 1967 return to caneda.

ok so we have now done the parathynaa or virgins prayer, parthena means goddess , thus the last post is orpheus' prayer for inciting the goddess. the name parthena is used in christian to doist chenita. It means par or equal to god or goddess or parthyn, the god par excellance, partinant in jewish means god as goddess, femanine face.

[2] II. TO NIGHT [NYX]

The Fumigation with Torches.
Night [Nyx], parent goddess, source of sweet repose, from whom at first both Gods and men arose,
Hear, blessed Venus [Kypris], deck'd with starry light, in sleep's deep silence dwelling Ebon night!
Dreams and soft case attend thy dusky train, pleas'd with the length'ned gloom and feaftful strain.
Dissolving anxious care, the friend of Mirth, with darkling coursers riding round the earth.
Goddess of phantoms and of shadowy play, whose drowsy pow'r divides the nat'ral day:
By Fate's decree you constant send the light to deepest hell, remote from mortal sight
For dire Necessity which nought withstands, invests the world with adamantine bands.
Be present, Goddess, to thy suppliant's pray'r, desir'd by all, whom all alike revere,
Blessed, benevolent, with friendly aid dispell the fears of Twilight's dreadful shade.

here darkness is revered and blessed, it is a light of enlightenment sent through the hells, it rose as romantic loving and brought about creation by procreation, as men rose with the gods, its the yang in theatapou, shintayo that is enlightenment and the birth of myrth, life and thought. it is bueatiful of cyprius venus afrodite represented by cyprus.and as tough as andimatium, like wolverine's claws see x men marvel comics. night and darkness makes the mix of twilight unfeared as it is light and darkness as well. there is also a shadow recall and those spirits and beings that exist in all

for we send light as darkness into the darkness of ignarance and they did not recognise us till the saw the light of truth, hopefully before the lost everything.

Announcement

the occupied territories of canada south have been liberated. these illegally captured territories that were under contention have been returned to canada, athetate or former chicago and all the territory around the 42 parallel has been returned. al;l terriitory captured by wayworth of the usa in 1967 have been liberated from the tyrany of ignarance, when we came the saw darkness and were incapable of recognising us, but shattered and destroyed the former isa lost like no country ever ghas.l smashed by the heal of god and the iron rod, god bless USEA the middle nations and the line coast to coast returned as desired to Canada before it became Caneda, if Ussr did not save the ignorance of theUSA in 1968 the incvation of 1967 into former new york to orgon, vermount would have ended with the clean up after canada was forced to police and capture washinton again, the usa has never won any illegal battle ever, real citizens prefered perace and not being USA citizens, joy rings across the american continent, canada was its own in 1996, Ussr failed in 1970-1971, hitlers round about led to many trying to take over the world as he thoyught to help police these nations knights fighhting to take fklags knowing they can not keep them justly, obama is USEAn, sounds good, peace and a new epoch, new york is in brayayanda or soputhern new yorn jersey so on south of the line illegally taken in 1967 and liberated in 2011 as professy fortold, as it was said and written it has been done,
peace
good night anmd may God(s) be with all uis good folks, including former US citizens on our side, wise.

Friday, November 18, 2011

Psalm II: TO THE GODDESS PROTHYRÆA

[1] I. TO THE GODDESS PROTHYRÆA

The Fumigation from Storax.
O venerable goddess, hear my pray'r, for labour pains are thy peculiar care;
In thee, when stretch'd upon the bed of grief, the sex as in a mirror view relief.
Guard of the race, endued with gentle mind, to helpless youth, benevolent and kind;
Benignant nourisher; great Nature's key belongs to no divinity but thee.
Thou dwell'st with all immanifest to sight, and solemn festivals are thy delight.
Thine is the talk to loose the virgin's zone, and thou in ev'ry work art seen and known.
With births you sympathize, tho' pleas'd to see the numerous offspring of fertility;
When rack'd with nature's pangs and sore distress'd, the sex invoke thee, as the soul's sure rest;
For thou alone can'st give relief to pain, which art attempts to ease, but tries in vain;
Assisting goddess [Eileithyia], venerable pow'r, who bring'st relief in labour's dreadful hour;
Hear, blessed Dian [Artemis], and accept my pray'r, and make the infant race thy constant care.

paraphyr is paraphera or par to godess or hera.

if you notice she is the constant protector of procreation and birth, odf new children and races, the reference to parthena or equal to god which is the greek word for virgin which is not a sexual word but was inducted that way using christ and the parthena or virgin mary anmd mother of christ. it is a revered title not a sexual oruientation base4d on having or not having had sex, this psalm calls to a fertile loving face of Giod and tells how she is invoked in procreation and the energies there of. this goddess is artemis the dian or goddess as God. the prayer includes the idea of misery being redeamed and changed to a good energy like sex as it helps seed the new thing born as wisdom from such misery to avoid misery in the future, the prayer is redeamptive. this psalm is a redeamption of the gadaria or angels of love earth and fertility, it is productive and causes things to have more in the future, from all events we grow and become divine and closer to god like children reaching maturity, thank you goddess

Thursday, November 17, 2011

Greek psalm one To Musaeus

Greek psalm one To Musaeus(

THE ORPHIC HYMNS are a collection of 87 short religious poems composed in either the late Hellenistic (C3rd or C2nd BC) or early Roman (C1st to C2nd AD) era. They are based on the beliefs of Orphism, a mystery cult or religious philosophy which claimed descent from the teachings of the mythical hero Orpheus.
The Hymns of Orpheus. Translated by Taylor, Thomas (1792).
University of Pennsylvania Press, 1999. (current edition)

The 1792 translation by Taylor with his notes is still available in print. However a much more accurate, modern translation by A. Athanassakis has since been released. See the booklist right for details of these two volumes and other related works on Orphism.

NOTES ON FORMAT:
1) I have compacted each of Taylor's verse couplets into a single line to shorten the page and make the information easier to print.
2) Taylor has translated most of the Greek names to their Latin equivalents. For the sake of clarity I have reinserted the Greek names from the source text in square brackets.
ORPHIC HYMNS INDEX

ORPHIC HYMNS 1 - 40

0. To Musaeus
1. To Prothyraea
2. To Nyx (Night)
3. To Uranus (the Sky)
4. To Aether
5. To Protogonus
6. To Astron (the Stars)
7. To Helius (the Sun)
8. To Selene (the Moon)
9. To Phusis (Nature)
10. To Pan
11. To Heracles
12. To Cronus
13. To Rhea
14. To Zeus
15. To Hera
16. To Poseidon
17. To Pluto
18. To Zeus of Thunder
19. To Zeus of Lightning
20. To Nephelae (Clouds)
21. To Thalassa (Sea)
22. To Nereus
23. To the Nereids
24. To Proteus
25. To Gaea (Earth)
26. To Mother of the Gods
27. To Hermes
28. To Persephone
29. To Dionysus
30. To the Curetes
31. To Athena
32. To Nike (Victory)
33. To Apollo
34. To Leto
35. To Artemis
36. To the Titans
37. To the Curetes
38. To Corybas
39. To Demeter of Eleusis
40. To Mother Antaea

ORPHIC HYMNS 41 - 86

41. To Misa
42. To the Horae (Seasons)
43. To Semele
44. To Dionysus Bassareus
45. To Dionysus Licnitus
46. To Dionysus Pericionius
47. To Zabazius
48. To Ippa
49. To Lysius Lenaeus
50. To the Nymphs
51. To Trietericus
52. To Amphietus Bacchus
53. To Silenus, Satyr, Bacchae
54. To Aphrodite
55. To Adonis
56. To Hermes Chthonius
57. To Eros (Love)
58. To the Moirae (Fates)
59. To the Charites (Graces)
60. To Nemesis
61. To Dice (Justice)
62. To Dicaeosyne (Equity)
63. To Nomus (Law)
64. To Ares|
65. To Hephaestus
66. To Asclepius
67. To Hygea (Health)
68. To the Erinyes (Furies)
69. To the Eumenides
70. To Melinoe
71. To Tyche (Fortune)
72. To the Daemon
73. To Leucothea
74. To Palaemon
75. To the Muses
76. To Mnemosyne (Memory)
77. To Eos (Dawn)
78. To Themis (Custom)
79. To Boreas (North Wind)
80. To Zephyrus (West Wind)
81. To Notus (South Wind)
82. To Oceanus
83. To Hestia (Hearth)
84. To Hypnus (Sleep)
85. To the Oneiri (Dreams)
86. To Thanatus (Death)
ORPHIC HYMNS, TRANSLATED BY THOMAS TAYLOR
TO MUSÆUS

Attend Musæus to my sacred song, and learn what rites to sacrifice belong.
Jove [Zeus] I invoke, the Earth [Gaia], and Solar Light [Helios],
the Moon's [Mene] pure splendor, and the Stars of night;
Thee Neptune [Poseidon], ruler of the sea profound, dark-hair'd, whose waves begirt the solid ground;
Ceres [Demeter] abundant, and of lovely mien,
and Proserpine [Phersephone] infernal Pluto's [Haides] queen
The huntress Dian [Artemis], and bright Phœbus rays, far-darting God, the theme of Delphic praise;
And Bacchus [Dionysos], honour'd by the heav'nly choir,
and raging Mars [Ares], and Vulcan [Hephaistos] god of fire;
The mighty pow'r who rose from foam to light, and Pluto potent in the realms of night;
With Hebe young, and Hercules the strong, and you to whom the cares of births [Eileithyia] belong:
Justice [Dikaisune] and Piety [Eusebia] august I call, and much-fam'd nymphs, and Pan the god of all.
To Juno [Hera] sacred, and to Mem'ry [Mnemosyne] fair, and the chaste Muses I address my pray'r;
The various year, the Graces [Kharites], and the Hours [Horai],
fair-hair'd Latona [Leto], and Dione's pow'rs;
Armed Curetes, household Gods [Korybantes, Kouretes, Kabeiroi] I call,
with those [Soteroi] who spring from Jove [Zeus] the king of all:
Th' Idæan Gods, the angel of the skies, and righteous Themis, with sagacious eyes;

note on section by val, me: if one notices the invocations of angels and gods sets a pattern or divine program concerning the invokation,. the idean, or unity of gods , angels and characteristics of thje gods invoked are calculated to cause a god level spell to activate
With ancient Night [Nyx], and Day-light [Hemara] I implore,
and Faith [Pistis], and Justice [Dike] dealing right adore;
Saturn [Kronos] and Rhea, and great Thetis too, hid in a veil of bright celestial blue:
I call great Ocean [Okeanos], and the beauteous train of nymphs, who dwell in chambers of the main;
Atlas the strong, and ever in its prime, vig'rous Eternity [Aion], and endless Time [Khronos];
The Stygian pool [Styx], and placid Gods [Meilikhoi] beside,
and various Genii [Daimones], that o'er men preside;
Illustrious Providence [Pronoia], the noble train of dæmon forms, who fill th' ætherial plain;
Or live in air, in water, earth, or fire, or deep beneath the solid ground retire.

note from val if one notices the invocation elements adds to the incitation of all the divine elements to participate in the religious ceremony and empowerment prayed for the idean is the god soul of pandemonas all power of God christians and others refer to.

Bacchus [Dionysos] and Semele the friends of all, and white Leucothea of the sea I call;
Palæmon bounteous, and Adrastria great, and sweet-tongu'd Victory [Nike], with success elate;
Great Esculapius [Asklepios], skill'd to cure disease,
and dread Minerva [Athene], whom fierce battles please;
Thunders [Brontoi] and Winds [Anemoi] in mighty columns pent,
with dreadful roaring struggling hard for vent;
Attis, the mother of the pow'rs on high, and fair Adonis, never doom'd to die,
End and beginning he is all to all, these with propitious aid I gently call;
And to my holy sacrifice invite, the pow'r who reigns in deepest hell and night;
I call Einodian Hecate, lovely dame, of earthly, wat'ry, and celestial frame,
Sepulchral, in a saffron veil array'd, leas'd with dark ghosts that wander thro' the shade;
Persian, unconquerable huntress hail! The world's key-bearer never doom'd to fail
On the rough rock to wander thee delights, leader and nurse be present to our rites
Propitious grant our just desires success, accept our homage, and the incense bless.

thios is the opening psalm that invites all to become one with the ritualand the invokation includes angels, high end angels called by thier divine godly names, tthe idean and all good people and things are invited and invoked to bare witness and empower the religious ceremony, the idean is the ancient greek word for God represented through the God(s) and angels and the domans the have offered as character of thier spirit and presence. thus he calls to all the good and the names of the high angels and God as christian, to doaist to bhuddist'hindu would believe in. Theon, theos is idean, but this is the unity of the holy spirit and all gods together. The original invoked ancient greek names but invoking both roman and greek names invokes more angels and faces of god, theon, theos is the face of god the god head of olympus represents, twelve faces make up this god head see earlier part of the blog. To Musaeus is the messiah or the divine all and good as a all or capital M messiah( God(s) or elohim the plurality that is a singularity as we should be singularities that are a unity of all as the good[ even if you call evil a form of justice and good which is a meteric trick to redeam things esp as the term first meant just baal or God)
see :http://www.theoi.com/Text/OrphicHymns1.html
Peace next psalm tommorow

Friday, November 11, 2011

Orpheus as part of the argonauts

So orpheus ended up representing the hight of the thracian kingdom building epoch in greece. His story connects to the journeys of jason and the argo naughts, which means we will be examining this tale as well, we will begin the Argonautica this year. Argonautica is a better choice to do before we read the psalms as we will know more about orpheus and the influences of these journeys that influenced them. Using this method we will have also covered jason and another epoch of greek history, by the end of this analysis we will have covered both the argonauts and orphic digma.

The Argonautica

By Apollonius

Translated by R. C. Seaton

http://classics.mit.edu/Apollonius/argon.html

also see :http://omacl.org/Argonautica/

Golden Fleece
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_fleece

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2395

The Argonautica has been divided into the following sections:

from the wikipedea
In the first book, the ship Argo is built and a crew of around fifty heroes is assembled in response to an oracle received by King Pelias. Led by Jason, the heroes include Heracles and his companion Hylas, Castor and Pollux (the Dioscuri: sons of Tyndareus and brothers of Helen and Clytemnestra), Orpheus, Meleager, Zetes and Calais (sons of Boreas), Peleus (father of Achilles), Laertes (supposed father of Odysseus), Telamon (father of Ajax), and the ship's builder, Argos. Their goal is to travel to Colchis and to obtain the Golden Fleece. After Jason suggests the election of a leader, Hercules (Heracles) recommends Jason himself, and the heroes agree.

The story of the argos begins with the building of a ship based on a vision by King palias. as one notices this era predates the oddysey and represents a time in which hercules existed. Some have interpreted teh golden fleece to represent grain. To further our understanding of this section we will also examine the story of frixcun and eli that contains the early greek tale concerning the origin of the fleece. These are the main stories that link the tales with orpheus. Hercul4es suggests making jason and they do not chose hercules, thus the rite of hercules gave authority to jason to lead the band. Orpheus also gave rite by way of thrace which in this time was an area larger than bulgaria and eastern north greece and eautropean turkey
if yopu look at the wikipedea site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argonautica there is map, but the thracians founded many kingdoms in the bulkans and along the black sea. Jason is a story of the greeks entering the eastern part of the black sea, as the golden fleece was llocated in georgia of the cacuses.

After making prayers to Apollo,[1] they set sail from the eastern coast of Thessaly, the Argonauts first reach Lemnos, where the women, led by their Queen Hypsipyle, have murdered all of their husbands. Omitting the murder from her story, Hypsipyle convinces the men (except for Hercules) to breed with the women in order to repopulate the island. If Hypsipyle, Jason’s choice of consort, has a son, he tells her, send him to my parents; then the Argo sets sail. Traveling through the Hellespont, they reach land of the Doliones; though the King, Cyzicus, is friendly, the Argonauts accidentally fight with the Doliones and kill Cyzicus. His widow Cleite then commits suicide, and Jason makes sacrifices in order to appease the gods. The Argonauts’ next destination is Cius, where Heracles’s companion Hylas is abducted by nymphs. Heracles becomes upset and the Argo is obliged to leave him behind, though Glaucus appears from the sea to reassure its crew that they made the right decision.

The second book begins in Bebryces, where King Amycus challenges the heroes to a boxing match. Pollux accepts, killing the king.

if one notices king Amycus autheticates teh rights of teh argo naughts by boxing them, once you had a fair boxing match it was the equivalents to a peaceful killing of teh king, esp if you won

read from here down for next week:

At Bosporus, Zetes and Calais drive the Harpies away from Phineas, a former king being punished for the misuse of his prophetic gifts; Phineas rewards them with the secret to passing through the Clashing Rocks. He tells the heros to fly a dove through the rocks first, if the bird makes it, then row through the narrow channel with all their might.[2] Passing through the Clashing Rocks, using this secret and the aid of Athena, they visit many strange lands: the land of the Amazons, led by Hippolyte; the land of Mossynoikoi, who make love in public; an island sacred to Ares, where they are attacked by Ares’ birds. Passing near the place where Prometheus is chained, they rescue the survivors of a ship from Colchis, and the Argonauts gain the grateful sons of Phrixus as accomplices in their bid to steal the Golden Fleece. Arriving in Colchis, Jason considers the best way of approaching the cruel King Aeëtes.

Athena helps build the Argo; Roman moulded terracotta plaque, first century CE

The third book begins with Hera and Athena, determined to help Jason in his quest. Hera conceives a plan; she suggests they get Kypris to influence her son Eros with a toy[3] made for Zeus by his nurse Adresteia. Kypris tells her son, if he fires an arrow at Aeëtes’ daughter Medea, causing her to fall in love with Jason, he shall get the toy.[4] Jason, accompanied by Phrixus' sons, goes to see Aeëtes. Phrixus' sons tell the king of their shipwreck and rescue by the Argonauts. Aeëtes sees a conspiracy in this story, and tells Jason he can take the fleece if he passes a test of strength and courage: harness the bulls with bronze hooves, plow the plain of Ares, and plant the teeth of a serpent, giving rise to an army of soldiers. Medea, powerful and skilled with herbs and magic, sees the hopelessness of the task and prays to Hecate. Jason, seeing that Medea is a useful tool although not knowing that she is under a divine love spell, asks her for drugs and aid and receives them; he returns her affection, asking her to follow him to Greece and to be his wife.

Medea instructs Jason to build a pyre and make sacrifices to Hecate. After honoring the goddess, he is to turn around and retreat. She says he will hear the sound of hellish barking dogs, but he is not to look back lest he ruin everything. Courageously, he does exactly what Medea says.[5] After making sacrifices to Medea’s favored goddess, Jason sprinkles Medea’s drug on his skin, clothing, spear, and sword. Protected by the drug, he is able to withstand the charge of the bulls and to harness them to plow the field. He plants the teeth in the plowed field, and the earth-born warriors rise from the ground. Jason places a great round rock among them, which Medea has also instructed him to do. They go to war over this rock, and Jason joins in the fighting until all are slain. Jason has succeeded at his task, but Aeëtes does not intend to release the Golden Fleece.

In the last book, Medea offers to put the dragon guarding the fleece to sleep in exchange for the Argonauts taking her aboard their ship and away from the father she has betrayed. Jason agrees, promising again to marry her, and she uses her skill with drugs to neutralize the dragon. Departing with the Golden Fleece, the Argo is pursued by Aeëtes and by Medea’s older brother Absyrtus. Jason proposes to leave Medea to Artemis, protector of virgins, an idea which causes an enraged Medea to threaten setting fire to the ships until Jason explains she is the bait in a trap set out for Absyrtus; the trap works, and Absyrtus is ambushed and killed by Jason, causing the Colchians to scatter.[6]. However, in order to reach home, they have to navigate a second set of dangerous rocks known as the Planktai. With the help of Hera, Thetis and the maiden Nereids, they safely make it through.[7]

A few incidental adventures later, the Colchians return, demanding the return of Medea. They are persuaded that Medea, because she left voluntarily, may stay with Jason if their marriage has been consummated, but she may not if she is still a virgin; Medea and Jason then consummate their marriage, and Medea is allowed to remain with her husband. At Lake Triton, possibly the Nile, they come across a serpent killed by Hercules, but are unable to find the hero himself. On Crete, the Argonauts encounter Talos, the last survivor of an ancient race of men, who attacks them; Medea comes to the rescue with her spells, and slays Talos, who bleeds ichor as he dies. Euphemus, son of Poseidon, casts a clod of earth he received at Lake Triton into the sea, creating the island of Kalliste (Thera); and at long last, the Argo reaches the coast of Thessaly and home.

I will continue interpreting this section next week, I will interpret at the same pace as
I was with the other myths

Thursday, November 10, 2011

the muse of orpheus.

According to Apollodorus[18] and a fragment of Pindar,[19] Orpheus's father was Oeagrus, a Thracian king; or, according to another version of the story, the god Apollo. His mother was the muse Calliope; or, a daughter of Pierus,[20] son of Makednos. His birthplace and place of residence was in Pimpleia,[21][22][23] Olympus. In Argonautica the location of Oeagrus and Calliope's wedding is close to Pimpleia,[24] near Olympus.[25][26] While living with his mother and her eight beautiful sisters in Parnassus,[27] he met Apollo, who was courting the laughing muse Thalia. Apollo became fond of Orpheus and gave him a little golden lyre and taught him to play it. Orpheus's mother taught him to make verses for singing. Strabo mentions that he lived in Pimpleia.[25] He is also said to have studied in Egypt.[28]

Orpheus is said to have established the worship of Hecate in Aegina.[29] In Laconia Orpheus is said to have brought the worship of Demeter Chthonia[30] and that of the Kores Sōteiras (Greek,Κόρες Σωτείρας) savior maid.[clarification needed][31] Also in Taygetus a wooden image of Orpheus was said to have been kept by Pelasgians in the sanctuary of the Eleusinian Demeter.[32]

In Greek mythology, Calliope ( /kəˈlaɪ.əpiː/ kə-ly-ə-pee; Ancient Greek: Καλλιόπη Kalliope "beautiful-voiced") was the muse of epic poetry,[1] daughter of Zeus and Mnemosyne, and is now best known as Homer's muse, the inspiration for the Odyssey and the Iliad.

One account says Calliope was the lover of the war god Ares, and bore him several sons: Mygdon, Edonus, Biston, and Odomantus (or Odomas), respectively the founders of Thracian tribes known as the Mygdones, Edones, Bistones, and Odomantes.

Calliope also had two famous sons, Orpheus[2] and Linus,[3] by either Apollo or the king Oeagrus of Thrace. She taught Orpheus verses for singing.[4] She was the wisest of the Muses, as well as the most assertive. She married Oeagrus close to Pimpleia,[5] Olympus.

Calliope is always seen with a writing tablet in her hand. At times, she is depicted as carrying a roll of paper or a book or as wearing a gold crown.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calliope

so orpheus' mother is the muse or goddes of the inspiration mof epic poetry and was the one who taught orpheus to mcompose poetry to the music of teh golden lyre that appolo gave him.
she represents a mother bwho was able to inspire people both with her bueaty and intel;ligence to a cstyle of poetry that is represented by her sons composition, she is the child of zues and Mnemosyne. She was both inspired to compose poetry for memory based on her mothers and divine songs.
she bore ares sons based on the wars that founded thracian kingdoms, each son was virtuous and vseen as divine vchildren.
She was a daughter of God(s).

Appolo was courting thalia who is

Roman statue of Thalia from Hadrian's Villa, nowadays at the Prado Museum (Madrid)
Muse of comedy and idyllic poetry, Jean-Marc NattierThalia /θəˈlaɪə/ (Ancient Greek: Θάλεια, Θαλία; "the joyous, the flourishing", from Ancient Greek: θάλλειν, thállein; "to flourish, to be verdant") was the Muse who presided over comedy and idyllic poetry. In this context her name means "flourishing", because the praises in her songs flourish through time.[1] She was the daughter of Zeus and Mnemosyne, the eighth-born of the nine Muses.

According to pseudo-Apollodorus, she and Apollo were the parents of the Corybantes.[2] Other ancient sources, however, gave the Corybantes different parents.[3]

She was portrayed as a young woman with a joyous air, crowned with ivy, wearing boots and holding a comic mask in her hand. Many of her statues also hold a bugle and a trumpet (both used to support the actors' voices in ancient comedy), or occasionally a shepherd’s staff or a wreath of ivy.

appolos luaghinmg courtship was with one of the eight muses one of which was orpheus' mother.
here sisters are both indicative of real sisters and ways of thought and poetry meant to flourish or subsist as styles in time.
it is this courtship that fostered oroheus other sude.

his father was teh avatar of apollo and thus orpheus was both teh father anbd tyhe mothers sons and a divine avatar.

the lyre represents teh divine song he god from apppolo who is symbolised as teh good of teh sun, wine and secret or mystery, he also is a god with a divine song.
Orpheus the father of epic poetry used idilyc and his mothers muse. the poetry flourishes as the people who sing it and use it represent the flourishing whose epic time reflects the growth of a people and feets that vallow people to be recalled in epic ways. Thus orpheus represnts anb epic time represnting an new epoch in thracian and gancient greek history. His lyre and poetry are teh divine musings of idylic and spic songs that represent the psalms in ancient greek history, his mother fostered homer who like her taught orpheus a part of the musing to create the divine song that represnts the greeks and is indicative of teh stories and time of teh aurgonaughts.

Friday, November 4, 2011

Homer verus Orpheus

e earliest literary reference to Orpheus is a two-word fragment of the sixth-century BC lyric poet Ibycus: onomaklyton Orphēn ("Orpheus famous of name"). He is not mentioned in Homer or Hesiod.[6] Most ancient sources accept his historical existence; Aristotle is an exception.[7]

Pindar calls Orpheus "the father of songs"[8] and identifies him as a son of the Thracian king Oeagrus[9] and the Muse Calliope:[10] but as Karl Kerenyi observes, "in the popular mind he was more closely linked to the community of his disciples and adherents than with any particular race or family".[11]

Greeks of the Classical age venerated Orpheus as the greatest of all poets and musicians: it was said that while Hermes had invented the lyre, Orpheus perfected it. Poets such as Simonides of Ceos said that Orpheus' music and singing could charm the birds, fish and wild beasts, coax the trees and rocks into dance,[12] and divert the course of rivers. He was one of the handful of Greek heroes[13] to visit the Underworld and return; his music and song even had power over Hades.

Some sources credit Orpheus with further gifts to mankind: medicine, which is more usually under the aegis of Aesculapius; writing,[14] which is usually credited to Cadmus and agriculture, where Orpheus assumes the Eleusinian role of Triptolemus, giver of Demeter's knowledge to mankind. Orpheus was an augur and seer; practiced magical arts and astrology, founded cults to Apollo and Dionysus[15] and prescribed the mystery rites preserved in Orphic texts. In addition, Pindar and Apollonius of Rhodes[16] place Orpheus as the harpist and companion of Jason and the Argonauts. Orpheus had a brother named Linus who went to Thebes and became a Theban.[17]

Some call homer the father of poetry and the psalm one of the first psalm, song writers in ancient Greeks. He was a type of micxheal angelo and a type of renessance man way before this age.

He is credited with practicing medicine and increasing humanities and the cosmos knowledge, he was credited for a few innovations in medicine including his holy cup we now call medicinal wine, one of might be more correct. Msany pieneered magic from his mystical art and writings and he was said to have dabbled and made up new abilities, He was also said to have had interets in the movement of bodies through space and also practice astrology though he lived before zoroaster- he practied hadatha which was also a love of his wife. he was into it before her as he was tne year older.
Both apo;onians and dianisians liked his works and this founded schools in this though and a mystery school in other desciplines including the one named after him. He was jasons harpist and some place him on the argo, argo is greek for arc, lilandic greek, its a greek language that existed before the greekes called themselves helenist, some might call it an earlier greek language, some of it is celtic, but declared fully greek by thier people, unified through atlas hercules nad even before that. His brother went to thebes prior to theseus and edipus. As jason is found in homer, orpheus lived during that time and wrote songs or divine peotry to song during the time homer wrote the chronological takes of teh greeks that we have already analysysed, So if one was ordering the greek chapters of the bible Orpheus was a psalm writer like david and solomon and homer a chronologer. Thus thesius is like a prophet amongst the others we have looked at, Hercules is the unifier or start of the Zeus era though cadmus 3was before him and we will look at him more later after Orpheus.

Thursday, November 3, 2011

orpheus the divine Psong judge messeger

orpheus the divine Psong judge messeger
Orpheus ( /ˈɔrfiːəs/ or /ˈɔrfjuːs/; Ancient Greek: Ὀρφεύς) was a legendary musician, poet, and prophet in ancient Greek religion and myth. The major stories about him are centered on his ability to charm all living things and even stones with his music; his attempt to retrieve his wife from the underworld; and his death at the hands of those who could not hear his divine music. As an archetype of the inspired singer, Orpheus is one of the most significant figures in the reception of classical mythology in Western culture, portrayed or alluded to in countless forms of art and popular culture including poetry, opera, and painting.[1]

To the Greeks, Orpheus was a founder and prophet of the so-called "Orphic" mysteries. He was credited with the composition of the Orphic Hymns, a collection of which survives. Shrines containing purported relics of Orpheus were regarded as oracles. Ancient Greek sources note Orpheus's Thracian origins.[2][3] Archaeologists have interpreted finds within ancient Thrace as evidence of Orphic cult.[4]

from wikipedea

So orpheuss was a musician his works were so prized that people began to compliment him as a divine voice or messeger of God(s). He also took this to heart and composed works or psalms. his divine music was also a divine song or bagavatan and judgement retera, program, those who were not good tried killing this holy martir of God(s)like those who stand aghainst justice and the good, those whory to do evil including stand against the good peple like the good somebody they were judged and sentenced based on the epoch shift orpheius and his good people,, including his wife. this enlightenment of a christ before christ and toleya his teacher called him this way before immanuel as it was a standard greek word for a GOOD AND VIRTUES PERSON OR ONE. FOR PANOS IMMANEUL SON OF MARY AND JESEPH IT WAS HIS TITLE. he was a divine person till tommorow peace

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