Saturday, May 14, 2011

waters of forgetfulness theseus style

On Pirithous' behalf they travelled to the underworld, domain of Persephone and her husband, Hades. Hades pretended to offer them hospitality and laid out a feast, but as soon as the two visitors sat down, they could not move. They were fastened to the chairs. They did not know where they were or why they were there. In fact, they forgot everything, because they sat on the Chairs of Forgetfulness.

on Pirithous' the two friends entered hades with the concept of persephone in mind. A feast was offered but this feast was to be given a seat in hades proper, not just a place cause it might be this two but a throne as well as all heroes get. They did not know where they were and thus did not know they were in hades. They like socrates drank the waters of hades and the river gother which for some was said to be the waters in or out of hades, the waters are anti matter and drinking it gives you a place in hades. Thus the seats are forgetfulness though no one forgets but the reality preset in the program of the game represented thereof by holding such a chair and the fantasy about to be played, see Plato's philosophising of the Myth of Er by me Valli... see profile for info.

When Heracles came into Hades for his twelfth task, he freed Theseus but the earth shook when he attempted to liberate Pirithous, and Pirithous had to remain in Hades for eternity. When Heracles had pulled Theseus from the chair where he was trapped, some of his thigh stuck to it; this explains the supposedly lean thighs of Athenians. When Theseus returned to Athens, he found that the Dioscuri had taken Helen and Aethra back to Sparta.
Hippolyta

Theseus, believed either to be in the company of Heracles, or of his own accord, had been on a quest in the land of the Amazons, a race of all-female warriors who reproduced with men for children (but killed off the males). Sensing no trouble or malice, the Amazons decided to openly welcome Theseus by having the queen, Hippolyta, go aboard his ship bearing gifts. After boarding the ship, Theseus left to Athens, claiming Hippolyta as his own bride. This sparked a war between the Amazons and the Athenians. Hippolyta eventually bore a son for Theseus, whom they named Hippolytus (Ἱππόλυτος). Theseus lost his love for Hippolyta, however, once he had cast his eye on Phaedra.

Plutarch's Life places Hyppolyte's Amazonian sister, Antiope, as the Amazonian kidnapped by Theseus. In this account, Antiope is the mother of Hyppolytus (named after her sister).

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