We are back on track and I will be examining the iliad more next week, it been interesting and the new systems are going up, including teh sewers that have been backed u[p for a while, ya I know a notice foretold of shut of periodically occurring might cause a slight disruption, but be patient all things are going our way and the whole system will be up proper by teh time we are done.
till next post ...week? ya for you next week.
peace
Monday, August 17, 2015
iliad questiosn concerning reasons for trojan war
We will check this section out next week. why was prayer more important and how does this paint the Iliad in a way not seen before?
Quite a romance and soap opera. It seems the Greeks had a great reason for fight their enemies in troy and it looks like Paris was not one of them. We shall see...
To her Pelides:—"With regardful ear,
'Tis just, O goddess! I thy dictates hear.
[pg 010]
Hard as it is, my vengeance I suppress:
Those who revere the gods the gods will bless."
He said, observant of the blue-eyed maid;
Then in the sheath return'd the shining blade.
The goddess swift to high Olympus flies,
And joins the sacred senate of the skies.
drom
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/6130/6130-h/6130-h.html#toc5
Quite a romance and soap opera. It seems the Greeks had a great reason for fight their enemies in troy and it looks like Paris was not one of them. We shall see...
To her Pelides:—"With regardful ear,
'Tis just, O goddess! I thy dictates hear.
[pg 010]
Hard as it is, my vengeance I suppress:
Those who revere the gods the gods will bless."
He said, observant of the blue-eyed maid;
Then in the sheath return'd the shining blade.
The goddess swift to high Olympus flies,
And joins the sacred senate of the skies.
drom
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/6130/6130-h/6130-h.html#toc5
Iliad 1 prayers not savage vengeance
It seems that the Iliad is inciting divine retribution for the dishonor Lachesis and Agamemnon suffered. This is not the gumshoe Ancient Greeks running half cocked to attack troy because Helen of Greece thought paris was OK to hang around. Here anguished lovers are praying for sollice and relief from plagues that are striking their people though they are the lovers gui8lted.
Iliad 1 way to dibine power
"Forbear (the progeny of Jove
replies)
To calm thy fury I forsake the
skies:
Let great Achilles, to the gods
resign'd,
To reason yield the empire o'er his
mind.
By awful Juno this command is given;
The king and you are both the care
of heaven.
The force of keen reproaches let him
feel;
But sheathe, obedient, thy revenging
steel.
For I pronounce (and trust a
heavenly power)
Thy injured honour has its fated
hour,
When the proud monarch shall thy
arms implores
And bribe thy friendship with a
boundless store.
Then let revenge no longer bear the
sway;
Command
thy passions, and the gods obey."
The
speaker then says we the progeny of Jove reply, like the child of Athena. To end this rage I forsake heaven, which
means he is willing to do anything even break the laws that would get him to
heaven to complete the task that enrages him.
Let Achilles so be with the gods, with reason bow to the empire of the
mind, but by Juno the command is given not for those who dream of perfect
cities but to those who must do the dirty work to make such cities work. The king and you are in heavens safety and
thus not of this dirty deed doers. May
you feel the arta and arĂȘtes of heaven and know their guard over your
actions. May thy revenge be of sheathed
steel, not of the blade but of divine grace and wrath. It is by heavenly power
that your revenge will come, as the evil doers time is limited. When one resorts to arms and violence or to bribing,
then revenge is not sought as one causes as much injury and injustice as you
suffers. By controlling ones passions and being a good person , not bribing for
friendships by stores of riches you might not have or desire to spend , bribing
itself is as petty as those who resort to violence to resolve a pained honour,
one has all heavens power on your side exacting revenge for you, you do not
need to lift a figure or spend a dime, now that’s power, so be good so that you
take advantage of the powers of heaven and not your enemies, if bno one wants
to fight then everyone wins in the compromise and no one gets hurt. Bribing makes fake friends. Heaven always rules on the side of the just
and virtuous.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/6130/6130-h/6130-h.html#toc5
Iliad 1 divine guardian justice incited
"Descends Minerva, in her guardian care,
A heavenly witness of the wrongs I bear
From Atreus' son?—Then let those eyes that view
The daring crime, behold the
vengeance too."
The incitation of Minerva sets her in a guardian capacity. Heavenly wit concerning the doings of one
good or bad. This blessing is sent from
the son of wisdom intellect. let those who have viewed the crime and even
caused it view and even suffer the retribution.
temporal update
I apologise for the tardiness of this post, since zatha has begun we have been tidying up things post pronto, from scenerios as to how things will be and things that could ot be are removed as effect.
I went to post at the community center and although our internet was working they have not yet hooked the system up and this site. I used a temporal device and a moment to send this timed material backwards to the time you are reading it.
we won and things are getting better by the moment.
no yent I checked the site could not be found.
I will post another post for next week in the same manner as this one.
temporal location just after previous post, post war.
I went to post at the community center and although our internet was working they have not yet hooked the system up and this site. I used a temporal device and a moment to send this timed material backwards to the time you are reading it.
we won and things are getting better by the moment.
no yent I checked the site could not be found.
I will post another post for next week in the same manner as this one.
temporal location just after previous post, post war.
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